Oh man oh man.
So first of all, anon, I want to commend you on your dedication. I literally just turned anon on last night after the pedophile anon I dealt with a couple of weeks ago, and according to my GMail notifications, you sent this ask at 6:37 a.m. EST. That’s pretty impressive. Kudos.
Second of all, and as a point of clarification: I have never watched the brony documentary, and I never will. I’m not into supporting things that sugarcoat a disgusting subculture (which I’ll get to in a minute), and I find the entire thing hypocritical and extremely… false. When it’s paired alongside a documentary—a praised documentary—about how awesome women are for loving something that’s traditionally geared towards men (how about video games and sci fi, for starters?), then maybe I’ll give it a glance, but considering that the brony subculture is one that is very happy to loudly exclude and push women away, I’m not holding my breath.
So now. Let’s talk about why that post (for those following at home, this post) is hilarious out of context, and I’ll even use My Little Pony gifs to help explain my position. Just for you, anon.
As a point of clarification, I think My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is a fantastic show. It teaches lessons that more kids (and, to be quite frank, fans of the show) need to learn. It has a main cast of not one but six girls, which is unbelievably rare in this day and age. It’s funny and heartwarming, the music is frequently adorable and entertaining, and it makes perfect sense that people of all ages and genders enjoy it. It’s an enjoyable show!
But, and here’s the important part, there’s a HUGE (dare I say, GARGANTUAN) difference between someone saying, “Wow, I really like this My Little Pony show!” and someone saying, “I’m a brony.”
Let me explain.
You see, anon, in the English language, words have connotations. If, for example, I say, “I’m a redneck,” you’re going to assume certain things about me—that I probably really love the second amendment, that I’ve got some high level of fondness for a more rural/backwoods culture, probably that I’ve got some really conservative political views. All or none of those things may be true of me, but the fact remains that I chose a word to describe myself that carries with it those specific connotations—connotations that I, as a speaker of English and an understander of American culture, should know about and shouldn’t be surprised when people assume them of me because I’ve said “I’m a redneck.”
In the same vein, saying “I’m a brony” carries with it certain connotations, and very few of them are pleasant… and what’s worse, most of those connotations are consistently provable as true.
I’m not talking about the connotations of bronies wanting to fuck underaged cartoon ponies (which is fucked up in and of itself) or spending all of their time clopping. Nobody actually cares about that. You do you.
I’m also not talking about the connotation of being a grown man who really enjoys a show that’s geared towards young girls. As I said before, this show is a great show. I’d be surprised if people weren’t really into it. And legitimately nobody is upset that a bunch of adult men really like a show that’s geared towards young girls.
And frankly, if we were talking about the brony culture of ~3-4 years ago, that’s all we’d be talking about.
But the culture has morphed, and the word “brony” no longer has the connotations it had back then. It doesn’t just mean that you’re an adult who likes this show. It’s turned into something far grosser.
A couple of weeks ago, I did an experiment, to sate my own curiosity and because I was kind of sick of people talking about how brony culture is completely harmless and okay. I’m not going to replicate the results here (you can read about them here and here), but suffice it to say that even leaving off the gross misogyny, homophobia, rape apologetics, and general nastiness of the brony community, I’d still find the community disgusting for the sole reason that they don’t bother to hide their porn and, because of that, have literally made it so that the show’s target audience can’t really participate in the fandom without being exposed to things that no child should be exposed to.
And that’s just scratching the surface.
I’m not going to get into a discussion about the entitlement of bronies, how they seem to think that because they like this thing that it should somehow belong to them and only them, even though they basically stole it from little girls.
I’m not going to get into a discussion about the pervasiveness of rape culture in their community.
I’m not going to get into the enormous overlap between bronies and entitled Nice Guys.
I’m not going to get into the culture’s inherent homophobia, where it’s perfectly okay to post porn of a pair of anthropomorphized ponies lezzing it up for the male gaze, but any sort of m/m is automatically deleted.
I’m not going to get into the culture’s tendency towards racism (with the constant question any time a pony is humanized and depicted as anything but white being, “but why is she [non-white]?”).
But it’s all there for you to see, and these are all connotations that the word “brony” carries. When you identify yourself as a brony, especially nowadays, you need to accept that these connotations will be assumed of you and, if you don’t want them to be assumed of you, you need to not just say “but I’m not like that!” but actually do what you can to change the culture itself and demonstrate with your actions that you’re not like that.
So. With that in mind, let’s talk about bronies “coming out of the closet” and how stupid that is.
First of all, it’s a gross appropriation of a term that applies—and should apply—to the LGBT* community. None of us chose to be the way we are; none of us woke up in the morning and decided, hey, I’d like to be part of a group that’s marginalized and abused in the best of present circumstances and jailed and murdered in the worst of present circumstances. If you think that the opposite is true, that’s a whole ‘nother discussion that I’m not going to have beyond saying: science says “fuck you.”
But the thing with bronies is that they’re not admitting to something that’s out of their control and, what’s worse (and secondly), they’re using a term that has such gross connotations that they should expect a lot of backlash when they reveal that they’re part of that particular subculture. They’re choosing to use a term that doesn’t just say “I’m a fan of this television show” (which, as I’ve said before, is fine and wonderful. I’m a fan of this television show) but that says, “I find myself sexually aroused by the characters in this show, and I don’t think that this show belongs to its target demographic but rather to me, the misogynistic dudebro who enjoys it.”
And that, anon, is why that post is funny out of context, because to be frank, if my future 13-year-old son ever came to me and admitted to something along those lines (that he was part of an internet subculture that I knew behaved in really gross ways and had essentially destroyed what should’ve been a safe space for actual children), I’d be pretty disappointed, too. Disappointed in my son and disappointed in myself, for somehow failing to raise him better than that.
As to your last jab, that I’m going to be a mother.
That’s 99% of why I have a problem with brony culture.
Take a trip with me, anon, to the future (after all, it’s nearly 2015!).
Not a future of hoverboards and flying cars, but about five years from now, when my son (and probable other kids… there’s going to be an infant in there somewhere, and the house [I’m totally going to have a house] will be a mess, but a different kind of mess… a mess of toys and also cereal) is about five years old.
This son of mine (Sammy, for those playing along at home) loves My Little Pony. He thinks that it’s the best show on TV. Sure, he may have a stronger fondness for the villains of the show (after all, look at who his father is… and related, Kyle’s love for Discord and Chrysalis knows no bounds), but he just loves the show in general. Assuming I have a daughter by then (for the sake of argument, her name is Evie and she mostly likes Apple Jack because Apple Jack is orange and orange is her favorite color), she also loves the show in general. We all love the show.
But here’s what happens.
They come and sit on my lap so that we can Google pictures of ponies… but when I do that—with Safe Search on, mind you!—disturbing and pornographic images pop up on the screen before I can navigate away, leaving my kids—we’ll say that Evie is 3 at the time, so they’re 3 and 5—to ask questions that they shouldn’t have a reason to ask yet.
They want me to read them stories about the ponies, but half the time I search for those stories, all I can find is porn, porn, porn.
They want to participate in the fandom for something that they love, but it’s a fandom that’s been taken over by really, reallygross people who perpetuate really, really gross ideas and have made it abundantly clear that while my son might be welcome to join them in a few years (assuming that he’s not a Dreaded Feminist or gay), my daughter is not and will never be welcome.
In other words, if this five years from now scenario plays out as it would play out today, my children would miss out on a LOT about something they love because that space has been taken over by a bunch of grown men who seem to think that it should belong to them (all while these same grown men throw tantrums whenever women and girls demand equal representation in other media).
So yeah. I’m going to be a mother. And that’s why I say, with utmost sincerity: fuck bronies.
To my anon the other day who asked me how I felt about MLP: I gave you my small, neutrally-positive opinion on the show itself. Have a wonderful expansion on why it’s difficult to fully enjoy, even peripherally.
So the dragon lichenbear feels like burning some shit tonight.
Everybody knows the story of the boy who cried wolf. Kid gets eaten by the wolf because nobody believes anything he says.
So what if there was another kid pretending to be the shepherd boy? Yelling ‘Wolf, wolf!’ and getting the shepherd in trouble? How about when the wolf shows up and eats the shepherd, because finally he cries out for help but because of the village kid pretending, he gets eaten? Nobody ever goes after that kid because he goes on getting other shepherds in trouble, and it’s never his fault because it’s all the shepherd boys never learning their lesson.
Welcome to Tumblr, where it’s cool to pretend to be trans, cool to make up words with no regards for people who need them, cool to cry ‘die cis scum’ or ‘misogyny’ left and right. Where people defend it, thinking there’s no harm. On the contrary, folks, you’re letting the village kid cry wolf and raise the alarm, so when the shepherd boy cries out for help, nobody cares. You’re letting the shepherd boys die.
Mary Sue is actually a pretty sexist term, as it tends to focus almost solely on female characters and criticize them. We don’t complain near as much when male characters are undeveloped and/or overpowered.
Mary Sue is also a pretty offensive term that really has no concrete meaning anymore. It means something different to everyone and a lot of people use it as a legitimate form of critique when it, clearly, is not at all.
You should really avoid using the term ‘mary sue’ altogether. Instead, talk about how a character is undeveloped, or how their motives seem stilted or a little unexplored. These are much better ways of getting at what you’re essentially trying for in ‘mary sue’.
Edit : Mary sue also has a very negative connotation to it, and in writing, an undeveloped character is a negative, however, you’re attaching this to self-inserts by default. That’s a problem. Teenage girls and female authors are far more the subject of petty criticisms like this. We don’t lambast John Green for writing self inserts, but we savagely go after Stephanie Meyer. There are far more problematic aspects in both of their works, but instead we attack Meyer because her character, Bella, is a ‘mary sue’ and a ‘self insert’.
I don’t much care if a character is a self insert or not. If they’re written beautifully and compellingly, then I’m going to enjoy that story.
Edit || Edit : queerquilava said: “Aaaand question avoided”
I’m sorry. A mary sue is an offensive term which means too many things to mean anything. A self insert, if you’ll look back a post or two, was already defined.
is it acceptable on tumblr to appropriate the language, struggles, resources, and rights movement of a group that is, on the whole, incredibly disprivileged, misunderstood, and at-risk
and then, when people tell you you’re being disrespectful and appropriative, scream that the people telling you not to do this are the real (x)ists, scum, the worst kind of people, etc
because that’s what’s fucking happening in the tumblr trans community
and if this were ANY other group of disprivileged people this shit, rightfully, wouldn’t fly on tumblr (I hope)
but it’s okay to do it to us because ??????
Because I think most of the Tumblr’s LGTBAQ+ community is self-centered teenagers and young adults with to much power? Like holy shit I’ve seen how manipulative those shits are, deleting / editing their posts to make themselves look like the victim, etc. D:
Like seriously, I’ve seen people say Tumblr’s worse then Reddit, and Tumblr’s a place where the bullied come to be the bully’s.
The real LGTBAQ+ people of tumblr, really don’t like Tumblr’s supposed LGTBAQ+ community.. .They agree it’s full nothing but assholes »;
One thing the queer/trans community really really likes to focus on is pronouns. Can’t get enough of them. Female, male, and neutral pronouns weren’t enough for some people to feel special, so now we have a billion animal/plant/robot/space pronouns floating around. Now, I’ve already addressed a lot of the issues I have with nounself pronouns. To sum up: I think they are superfluous, childish, dehumanizing, delegitimize trans people, and defy the entire point of what a pronoun, linguistically speaking, is. But I wanted to touch on something I’ve mentioned a couple of times but never explained, how these pronouns are an example of cis privilege.
This morning, I got a message from a tumblr user (who will remain anonymous by their own request). This person told me that they experience physical dysphoria, but they didn’t know if they counted as “really trans” because they didn’t care what pronouns people used for them and everything they saw about being trans had to do with pronouns.
People, this is a PROBLEM. Here is a person who is most assuredly trans, who is fearing that they are deluded about themselves because they are more concerned with treating their dysphoria than they are with what people call them.
Basically, we have cis people (ie people who experience no dysphoria) pretending to be trans because it makes them feel special. These people have no idea what it means to experience dysphoria, so they latch onto something they see us being concerned about - pronouns - and decide that that is what it means to be trans. But existing ones don’t work for them (probably because they’re, yanno, cis) so they have to make their own up and brag about how “cute” they are. They prioritize these made up pronouns and identities over actual trans issues. People are DYING from hate crimes and from lack of medical care and you idiots are crying about how no one will call you a robot.
I’m not saying pronouns aren’t important, they absolutely are. People do experience social dysphoria around pronouns as a result of physical dysphoria, and that is a legitimate issue that we need to address. But please, let’s stop throwing dysphoria under the bus in order to do so.
A proudly gay man gets offended when a coworker raises some complaints with his behavior around the office.
Sometimes things aren’t the way we think they are.
how did I see that coming
also this is how I imagine tumblr in cubicles, at least the parts where some people are overly sexual about everything and assume when someone doesn’t like their stuff their homophobic, or transfobic or any other phobic
still though it’s a great video
i fucking love this video
Holy shit key and peele why are you so amazing?
Their stuff is actually reeeeal smart.
Gays and lesbians are told that their same-sex attraction is something to be ameliorated by science, that there is something to be done to treat their deviation from the norm of man-fuck-woman-and-woman-fuck-man.
Many people balk at this belief now, as they should, but those same people will tell a little boy that his interest in skirts means he might actually be a girl in a boy’s body, or that a girl who likes to play rough was a boy all along. How is this bit of cognitive dissonance so popular?
We need to let children enjoy what they enjoy and not try to give their interests more meaning than they have. If a child feels sex dysphoria, which does need and deserve treatment, it will show in ways a lot more serious than an uncommon style of dress. Labeling children as trans when they are not is and will always be harmful.
Those of us in animation always gripe that the rest of Hollywood doesn’t care or know the first thing about animated films. There are tons of anecdotal stories to support this position, but finally, we’ve got some definitive proof. And if you think Hollywood doesn’t understand animation, it’s even worse than you could imagine.
AAHAHAHA OH MY GOD
lmao you can read this or you can just think “Frozen won against the Wind Rises”
I love how with the exception of one voter (who abstained), none of them held any respect for animators outside of Disney. Surprise, surprise.
A professor talks about the issue of racism in Japan
ETA: the person who made this video is being pressured to censor it and take it down from youtube, but he feels that it is very important that people know about it (see the second video he made about it for more info), so please signal boost this or repost it or either way share the video around before it gets silenced!
Well they are back, (I believe it’s the same sick person.. but it could be a new equally as sick person) Anyways, I stumbled across their blog in the “Sims 3 Legacy” tag and though their blog is not as cluttered with the disgusting content I stumbled across toddlers…
I really don’t care if somebody dresses up pixels as sluts. why do you guys care if people dress up pixels as sexualized things? they’re just pixels you can dress up.
I’m sorry but ARE YOU KIDDING? I usually just ignore ignorant comments like this BUT THEY AREN’T SEXUALISING A SIM THAT IS AN ADULT
THEY ARE SEXUALISING SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS A CHILD
A very young child at that
So don’t even think the fact that it’s a game can justify that they are sexualising a toddler aged sim
No normal person does that and chances are they probably do it in real life
Like I said The Sims are very much like dolls with a mind of there own. I don’t get why people are ignoring that fact. I really do not care for children sims but it could be because my laptop crashes when I try to play the sims 3. anyways I’ll stick to my opinion and you’ll stick to yours ok?
Why are you ignoring the fact that someone made the conscious decision to dress a toddler sim in a g string and heavy make up? Would it be ok if someone drew it instead? No. >_> it’s not opinion, it’s fact :) but obviously, it doesn’t phase you for some reason and that worries me. Thanks to the block button I won’t be seeing anything from you ever again. Bye.
Okay. Wtf. You guys need to stfu. It’s fucking sims. Not real life. Their pixels. Not you. People have their styles and don’t want to be judged on what him they do. I’m pretty sure if you were judged on something you proud of you wouldn’t be too happy either. I don’t care if she sexualizes a toddler or child or even a god damn infant.
Just gunna reblog this and leave this here because there are people likeTHIS^^ going around saying that what she’s doing and saying is not inappropriate because "these are just pixels and I’ve seen people draw children like this." Yes well I don’t know what planet in the universe you came from, but here on earth where most of the people are human, depicting babies and children as sexual objects, whether they be pixels or not, is UNFUCKINGACCEPTABLE.I pray that you never have children because THIS SHIT:
IS NOT FUCKING COOL!!!
Btw her simstagram is ‘simsqueenie’
She posts these things there as well
The point is people, under US Law (I have no idea how things are worded elsewhere) IT IS ILLEGAL! IT IS CONSIDERED CHILD PORNOGRAPHY! That is the issue. What part of illegal do we not understand here?
ANY representation of a minor, be it an actual photograph, a drawn picture, a digitally designed/manipulated picture, or a video game character that shows the sexualization of a child is considered CHILD PORNOGRAPHY and is ILLEGAL. What is so fucking hard about this to understand?!?
Just because they are “just pixels” does NOT make it any less right or any less illegal. This isn’t about dictating someone’s moral compass or people being hung up over something. This has to do with the sexualization of a child and someone creating CHILD PORNOGRAPHY with a video game.